‘Teague is coaching for his Carlton career in the next four weeks’

It was a race in two for the worst performance of round five.

But while St Kilda were bad on Thursday night, the circumstances at Carlton and their loss to Port Adelaide meant they took the title.

This week on the Real Footy podcast, Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure discuss the Blues and where they sit in season 2021. Have they made progress since sacking Brendon Bolton as coach? Are they playing enough youngsters, and in the right positions? Will Liam Stocker play against the Lions this weekend – and will he bring the aggression they have lacked?

A debate is looming about whether the issues at Carlton stem from the coaching, or the talent on their list. Plus, are the leaders in Patrick Cripps and Sam Docherty being asked to do too much? And are their flaws being exposed because they are trying too hard?

St Kilda are not off the hook for their efforts, though they were dealing with injuries to key players. But since they played Richmond in the finals last year they have fallen away dramatically. And there are two stats out of last Thursday’s loss that should be of particular concern for the Saints.

Also this week, in the wake of Brisbane’s upset grand final win over Adelaide, the debate turns to expansion in AFLW. Should more teams be added as soon as possible, or is it better to wait until there is more talent that has grown up playing the game to draw from? And how much will off-field matters – including interest from club sponsors – have an impact on the league’s decision?

Plus: the Cats still haven’t had a definitively good performance this season, why no one should be tipping the Bombers this weekend, the Demons are proving themselves and there’s a stat that shows they are having their best defensive start to a season since 1965, and should the Pies keep playing Darcy Moore forward?

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